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Submitted by Roanman on Thu, 03/31/2016 - 06:02

The Department of "Homeland Security" places an order for 7,000 assault weapons

Submitted by Roanman on Tue, 01/29/2013 - 06:47

 

From The Blaze among other places.

 

IF ‘ASSAULT WEAPONS’ ARE BAD

WHY DOES DHS WANT TO BUY 7,000 OF THEM FOR ‘PERSONAL DEFENSE’?

 

 

The Department of Homeland Security is seeking to acquire 7,000 5.56x45mm NATO “personal defense weapons” (PDW) — also known as “assault weapons” when owned by civilians. The solicitation, originally posted on June 7, 2012, comes to light as the Obama administration is calling for a ban on semi-automatic rifles and high capacity magazines.

Citing a General Service Administration (GSA) request for proposal (RFP), Steve McGough of RadioViceOnline.com reports that DHS is asking for the 7,000 “select-fire” firearms because they are “suitable for personal defense use in close quarters.” The term select-fire means the weapon can be both semi-automatic and automatic. Civilians are prohibited from obtaining these kinds of weapons.

The RFP describes the firearm as “Personal Defense Weapon (PDW) – 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and/or when maximum concealment is required.” Additionally, DHS is asking for 30 round magazines that “have a capacity to hold thirty (30) 5.56x45mm NATO rounds.”

 

Now who do you suppose it is that "Homeland Security" will be pointing these weapons at?

I'm thinking it'll be the residents of the "Homeland".

 

Battle Wagon

Submitted by Roanman on Sat, 08/25/2012 - 11:12

 

 

Since we're on the subject of Police shooting bystanders.

Here's a piece from the Palm Beach Post that begs some questions.

 

Florida Town Buys 9-Ton Emergency TK-4 Tactical Vehicle to “Provide Residents Extra Protection During Hurricanes”

By Bill DiPaolo Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

PALM BEACH GARDENS —

Weighing 9 tons and capable of withstanding 100-mph winds, a rescue/emergency/communications vehicle bought by the city for $175,000 is expected to provide residents with extra protection during hurricanes and other dangerous situations.

“It’s a great city and regional tool. We used it on several emergency calls here and in other cities in north county,” said Mayor David Levy.

The 20-foot-long All-Hazard Special Response Vehicle, also known as the TK-4, was used by Gardens police on a trial basis for about three weeks in July. Several other South Florida communities considering buying a TK-4 also used the vehicle, said Chris Light, president of Armored Solutions Inc., the Pittsfield, Mass.-based company that manufactures the vehicles.

The TK-4 is now back in Pittsfield where company employees are adding a winch to lift trees and other heavy debris and a night camera. The vehicle should be delivered to Gardens just after Labor Day, Light said.

Palm Beach Gardens Police Chief Stephen Stepp did not return a call for comment.

Forfeiture money was used to pay for the vehicle. The money is collected from the Law Enforcement Trust Fund, which disperses forfeiture money collected by state, local and federal law enforcement agencies.

Up to 10 people can fit inside the vehicle. That will give Gardens flexibility in using the TK-4 to handle different emergencies from SWAT team emergencies to lifting fallen trees, Light said.

“They can get medical, emergency and communications people all in the same vehicle,” he said. “And they can get there fast. The TK-4 can travel at highway speeds.”

 

Pretty neat stuff eh?

So here's question number 1. How is it that supposed professional newspaper reporter, Bill DiPaolo never bothered to look into some of the other advertized features of the TK-4.

Which features can be easily found by simply typing TK-4 into any search engine and include among others.

 

 The TK-4 roof hatch has armor piercing shield protection, and ASI’s exterior sniper gun port gives the team a clear view to any impending threat. A rotating turret has a 360° turning radius. The interior sniper step allows easy access to the roof.

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  • The TK-4 is standard with ASI’s "outrigger" extended running boards that allow the tactical team additional solid footing while riding on the exterior of the vehicle.

     
  • An extended rear bumper and electric rear secondary step gives the team easy, quick exit through the rear deployment doors.

     
  • The TK-4 rear doors swing open easily for quick deployment and lock open at 90°s or 180°s. ASI’s gap shield protection is standard on rear doors for additional shield protection. 

     
    • All TK-4 front doors have the capability to lock open at a 90° angle as well as a 45° angle allowing the team shield coverage. ASI’s gap shield with armor piercing protection gives complete door coverage at all angles.
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      The TK-4 has 11 ASI machined exterior gun ports: 8 standard gun ports and 3 sniper gun ports with a 7” opening for sniper rifles.

 

 

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  • Here are some of the promo shots and descriptions that didn't make it into Mr. DiPaolo's article.
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  • The ASI TK-4 is an armored SWAT vehicle designed to accommodate up to 10 tactical officers. With armor piercing protection, the TK-4 can maintain highway 

    speed, and 4-wheel drive is standard.

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  • Rotating Turret w/gun port open. 

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  • Adjustable Sniper Step in up position.

 

 

I'm starting to want one.

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  • The second question that comes to mind is how is it that a local government who supposedly work for the people don't have the balls to disclose these very fine features when anouncing the purchase of their brand new $175,000 vehicle.

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  • Which purchase evidently didn't cost the taxpayers a penny as the funds were obtained from a "forfeiture fund".

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  • Which brings us to the final and most interesting question of all.

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  • Are the people arming themselves in response to a belligerent and heavily armed government, or is the government arming itself in response to a belligerent and armed people.

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Just who exactly do they intend to shoot?

Submitted by Roanman on Wed, 08/22/2012 - 08:24

 

This one has been flying around pretty good for the last couple of days, we think it should fly around some more.

 

By Major General Jerry Curry, USA (Ret.) 

The Social Security Administration (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets to be delivered to 41 locations in major cities across the U.S.  No one has yet said what the purpose of these purchases is, though we are led to believe that they will be used only in an emergency to counteract and control civil unrest. Those against whom the hollow point bullets are to be used — those causing the civil unrest — must be American citizens; since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens.

What would be the target of these 174, 000 rounds of hollow point bullets? It can’t simply be to control demonstrators or rioters. Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets don’t just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body’s organs. Death often follows.

Potentially each hollow nose bullet represents a dead American. If so, why would the U.S. government want the SSA to kill 174,000 of our citizens, even during a time of civil unrest? Or is the purpose to kill 174,000 of the nation’s military and replace them with Department of Homeland Security (DHS) special security forces, forces loyal to the Administration, not to the Constitution?

All my life I’ve handled firearms. When a young boy growing up on my father’s farm in Pennsylvania Dad’s first rule of firearms training was, “Never point a gun at someone, in fun or otherwise, unless you intend to shoot them. If you shoot someone, shoot to kill.” I’ve never forgotten his admonition. It stayed with me through my Boy Scout training, when I enlisted in the army as a Private to fight in the Korea
War, during my days as a Ranger and Paratrooper and throughout my thirty-four year military career.

If this were only a one time order of ammunition, it could easily be dismissed. But there is a pattern here. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has ordered 46,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition. Notice that all of these purchases are for the lethal hollow nose bullets.  These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting. This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes.

In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls. This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen. Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? What’s the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest? Has Congress and the Administration vetted the plan in public.

 

 

Bearing in mind as always.

 

 

 

Why The Gun In Civilization?

Submitted by Roanman on Fri, 06/25/2010 - 07:04

 

I've seen this one come around two different ways, the first as attributed to a Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret) as below, the second by the guy at Munchkin Wrangler found here.

I think it's a really well reasoned essay, so I'm grabbing it.

With regards to it's author, ... my conscience is satisfied.

 

Why The Gun In Civilization?

By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force.

If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception.

Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats.

The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force.

It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

 

 

To quote Vladimir Lenin

Submitted by Roanman on Tue, 10/06/2009 - 09:34

 

                                       

                                                                   

                                                                                                                                                      

                                                                                     

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