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To quote Robert Reich

Submitted by Roanman on Thu, 10/15/2009 - 15:35

 

I will actually give you a speech made up entirely--almost at the spur of the moment, of what a candidate for president would say if that candidate did not care about becoming president.
 
In other words, this is what the truth is, and a candidate will never say, but what candidates should say if we were in a kind of democracy where citizens were honored in terms of their practice of citizenship, and they were educated in terms of what the issues were, and they could separate myth from reality in terms of what candidates would tell them:
 
"Thank you so much for coming this afternoon. I'm so glad to see you, and I would like to be president.
 
Let me tell you a few things on health care.
 
Look, we have the only health-care system in the world that is designed to avoid sick people. [laughter] That's true, and what I'm going to do is I am going to try to reorganize it to be more amenable to treating sick people.
 
But that means you--particularly you young people, particularly you young, healthy people--you're going to have to pay more. [applause] Thank you.
 
"And by the way, we are going to have to--if you're very old, we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It's too expensive, so we're going to let you die. [applause]
 
"Also, I'm going to use the bargaining leverage of the federal government in terms of Medicare, Medicaid--we already have a lot of bargaining leverage--to force drug companies and insurance companies and medical suppliers to reduce their costs.
 
But that means less innovation, and that means less new products and less new drugs on the market, which means you are probably not going to live that much longer than your parents. [applause]
 
Thank you."

 

Formerly Feckless Republicans learning to sell sex on a troop train.

Submitted by Roanman on Wed, 10/14/2009 - 15:40

 

First of all, some of you people need to stop yelling at me.

Especially the few of you thin skinned, unforgiving, left wing twits with the well earned inferiority complexes, ... ... ... ... ... ... and my telephone number.

You know who you are !!!

You have my word of honor that I will restore all the former examples of Republican fecklessness from the old site in their entirety ...... plus.

This transfer has been a big job, and no, I'm not deliberately attacking Democrats and promoting Republicans in and effort to personally destroy Barack Obama, his administration, family and anyone else he ever had a fond thought for.

You know me well enough to know, that my contempt for the political class is universal.

I simply reposted on those Silly Little Democrats first.

  They are in power after all.

As for the changed title, it is my strongly held opinion that the Republicans have found a little feck.

Which of course makes them Fecking Republicans.

I did it because you would have anyway.

 

Marry for Money

Submitted by Roanman on Tue, 10/06/2009 - 15:08

                                                                                                                                                                                              

          

                                                                                                                                            

                                                              

                                                                    

To Quote Albert Schweitzer

Submitted by Roanman on Sat, 10/03/2009 - 15:44

 

                                       

                                                               

 

                                                                                       

                                                                                          

 

To quote some cowboy, we don't know who.

Submitted by Roanman on Sat, 10/03/2009 - 13:57

              

                                                                                                                                               

 

     

                                                                                                                                      

                                                                

 

To quote Bill Clinton

Submitted by Roanman on Sat, 10/03/2009 - 09:16

 

                                                                                                                                        

 

 

                                                                                                   

To Quote James Carville

Submitted by Roanman on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 07:04

 

                                                                                                             

                                                                                    

                                                                                                                                  

                                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                            

                                                                                

 

To Quote Unknown

Submitted by Roanman on Fri, 09/04/2009 - 06:54

 

 

Obama's health care plan will be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, and whose members are exempts from it, signed by a president who smokes in secret, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is broke.

 

 

To quote Barack Obama

Submitted by Roanman on Sun, 08/30/2009 - 11:35

 

THE PRESIDENT:"...Now, I actually think that the tougher issue around medical care — it’s a related one — is what you do around things like end-of-life care 

DAVID LEONHARDT: Yes, where it’s $20,000 for an extra week of life.

THE PRESIDENT: Exactly. And I just recently went through this. I mean, I’ve told this story, maybe not publicly, but when my grandmother got very ill during the campaign, she got cancer; it was determined to be terminal. And about two or three weeks after her diagnosis she fell, broke her hip. It was determined that she might have had a mild stroke, which is what had precipitated the fall.

So now she’s in the hospital, and the doctor says, Look, you’ve got about — maybe you have three months, maybe you have six months, maybe you have nine months to live. Because of the weakness of your heart, if you have an operation on your hip there are certain risks that — you know, your heart can’t take it. On the other hand, if you just sit there with your hip like this, you’re just going to waste away and your quality of life will be terrible.

And she elected to get the hip replacement and was fine for about two weeks after the hip replacement, and then suddenly just — you know, things fell apart.

 

I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost. I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother. Whether, sort of in the aggregate, society making those decisions to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill is a sustainable model, is a very difficult question. If somebody told me that my grandmother couldn’t have a hip replacement and she had to lie there in misery in the waning days of her life — that would be pretty upsetting.

 

DAVID LEONHARDT: And it’s going to be hard for people who don’t have the option of paying for it.

 

THE PRESIDENT: So that’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues. But that’s also a huge driver of cost, right?

 

I mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health care bill out here.

DAVID LEONHARDT: So how do you — how do we deal with it?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that there is going to have to be a conversation that is guided by doctors, scientists, ethicists. And then there is going to have to be a very difficult democratic conversation that takes place. It is very difficult to imagine the country making those decisions just through the normal political channels. And that’s part of why you have to have some independent group that can give you guidance. It’s not determinative, but I think has to be able to give you some guidance. And that’s part of what I suspect you’ll see emerging out of the various health care conversations that are taking place on the Hill right now.

 

"Right now, insurance companies are rationing care. They are basically telling you what's covered and what's not. They're telling you, 'We'll cover this drug but we won't cover that drug. You can have this procedure or you can't have that procedure. So why is it that people would prefer having insurance companies make those decisions rather than medical experts and doctors figuring out, you know, what are good deals for care and providing that information to you as a consumer and your doctor so you can make good decisions?"

 

"The rumor that's been circulating a lot lately is this idea that somehow the House of Representatives voted for 'death panels' that will basically pull the plug on grandma because we've decided that it's too expensive to let her live anymore,  "I am not in favor of that."

 

 

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